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IOO YEARS AGO THIS WEEK 17 - 23 MARCH 1925

This week's many stories include the new name for suicide corner, the tally fraud at Lea Green Colliery, the Ten Loonies return to perform in St Helens, the punch up in Thatto Heath, a death at Sutton Manor Colliery, the six-year-old boy who was severely injured by stone throwing and the motorbike in Corporation Street that skidded in the tramlines and ended up on fire.

Tallies had a two-fold use in coal mines. The little discs that were left above ground had an important safety purpose in showing which miners were down the pit at any one time. Other tallies would be placed on coal boxes to show who had dug the coal, so that the right person would be paid.

Sometimes those working underground would put their own tallies on other people’s coal, which led to James Hopkins from Phythian Street, James Bridge from Waterloo Street and William Poole from Blundells Lane in Rainhill appearing in court this week. They were accused of obtaining 8s 7d by false pretences at Lea Green Colliery and were each fined £2.

The Brunswick Hotel used to be in Glover Street in Greenbank and last Saturday night the pub had upset Frances Pemberton in some way. Fifteen minutes after closing time a constable had found the woman from Phythian Street kicking at its door and using bad language. Instead of taking Frances to the police station, the officer decided to take her home and then issue a summons. During the journey he said she had sworn at him all the way and this week in court Frances was bound over for three months.

A couple of punch-ups also made the courts. One had been on a Sunday afternoon in Crossley Road in Thatto Heath where PC Turner had watched Archibald Brown from Elm Road and Frank Lethbridge from Elephant Lane exchanging blows. Brown chose not to appear in court, which was a foolish act as he was bound over for a longer period than Lethbridge and had to find higher sureties.

Robert Hughes from Herbert Street in Sutton was also in court to face a charge of assaulting Edward Griffiths. The latter told the court that Hughes had formerly lodged with him and after leaving his house had returned in an angry fashion to claim two chairs and mattresses. Griffiths said Hughes had also pummelled him, although the defendant accused Griffiths of making the first punch.

The St Helens Reporter had fun quoting the evidence of an Irish youth called James Gavan who had been a witness to the disturbance. Upon being asked why he hadn't protected the people that he lodged with, the Reporter said Gavan had replied: "Oi thought it was a family affair…Oh, oi can git nothun' by foightin' in the landlady's house." The defendant was bound over for six months in one surety of £2 and a further one of £1.

I find it surprising that the tramlines that were laid throughout much of St Helens town centre did not lead to more accidents than they did. Navigating through them must have been particularly tricky for motorcyclists in wet weather.

On the evening of the 18th a young man on a motorbike was proceeding down Corporation Street, near to Holy Cross Church, when he skidded in the tramlines and was flung off his machine. His petrol tank was torn open and the hot engine burst into flames and continued burning furiously for several minutes. But the rider was not injured and after the flames were extinguished he was able to wheel his machine home.

The junction of Westfield Street, Ormskirk Street, Cotham Street and Baldwin Street was generally known as the "Sefton Arms corner". Although it did have another name – "suicide corner". Over one 12-hour period in 1923, a traffic census had counted 4,143 vehicles passing that point. With the East Lancs Road still in its planning stages, drivers journeying through south Lancashire – many in lorries – passed through St Helens.

Because of the congestion that was caused and the many accidents, a policeman was stationed on point duty outside the Sefton Arms issuing hand signals to drivers. And the danger was enhanced because the corner of Cotham Street served as the terminus or starting point for tramcars. In order to create more space, a new Sefton Arms was currently being built, set back 30 feet from its predecessor.

On the 18th at a meeting of the council's Highways Committee, a discussion was held on what they should officially call the new Sefton Arms corner. Councillor Boscow was strongly in favour of giving the place the name of Westgate, on the basis that it led to Westfield Street. He strongly objected to it taking its name from a public house, adding: "It is not a very nice thing."
Sefton Place, St Helens
Councillor Woods said he preferred the new centre to bear the name "square" instead of "gate". Other names were suggested but then Councillor Woods said: "Why not offer a prize for the best suggestion?" Eventually, the committee decided to defer the matter for a month, although they would in time decide on Sefton Place as the name (and pictured above with a point-duty policeman on his little island).

On the 19th the inquest into the death of James Brown from Back of Jubits Lane in Sutton Manor was held at St Helens Town Hall. It was yet another case where an unexpected collapse of underground roof had taken place, pinning the victim to the ground under loads of rubble. James was dug out and taken to St Helens Hospital where he died later that day.

As usual in such cases, his fellow workers at Sutton Manor Colliery and the fireman that had been on duty told the coroner that the place where James was working had been perfectly safe and what had occurred had been a "pure accident". And, as usual, a verdict of misadventure was returned.

A century ago there were far more stones of one kind or another lying about on the town’s pavements and roads. Youths would often throw them at street lamps – or at other kids, sometimes with serious consequences. This week William Riley from Bootle appeared in St Helens Police Court accused of wounding George Bradley with intent to do him bodily harm.

Supt Dunn told the Bench that Riley had at 6pm on the previous evening thrown a stone at some little children in Sutton. The missile had struck 6-year-old George on his forehead causing a very severe wound that extended to his skull. Upon being arrested Riley insisted that he had not meant to hurt the boy. He was remanded for eight days and although bail was granted, a total of £20 would need to be found as sureties, which was a steep ask.

When Vincent Fildes of Market Place in St Helens appeared in Southport Police Court accused of stealing a suitcase and cash, a character reference from St Helens Police was read out. But it was not one the man would have liked to hear. The Chief Constable of Southport told the Bench: "St. Helens Police say that he is an inveterate liar and a man of bad temper. His father will have nothing to do with him." Fildes was sentenced to six months in prison.

It was all change at the Hippodrome on the 23rd when a new set of artistes began a week's performances. Although the zany act that topped the bill, The Ten Loonies, were far from new to St Helens having made many previous appearances in Corporation Street.

In a review of their show in 1920, the Reporter wrote: "The madhouse instrumentalists, the eccentric musicians, brought down the house with a glorious medley of the choicest band music and the most preposterous foolery that man ever devised." They were dubbed in this week's Reporter advert "The Crazy Comedy Band" and these were the other turns on the bill, along with their descriptions in the ad:

Billy Leo & Kathleen Hesketh ("Burlesque comedy couple"); Zena Carol ("Comedienne"); Lauri Howards ("The mad horse, eccentric dancing"); The Ruby Sisters ("In singing, dancing and acrobatic act"); Dan Polo ("The Little Eccentric Comedian") and Arthur James & Partner ("Speciality artiste").

St Helens Reporter courtesy St Helens Archive Service at Eccleston Library

Next Week's stories will include the swingboat assaults in Sutton, the brickmaking conundrum, the foxtrot contest at the Hippodrome, a public telephone for Eccleston and the carrot and stick approach to defaulting maintenance payers.
This week's many stories include the new name for suicide corner, the tally fraud at Lea Green Colliery, the Ten Loonies return to perform in St Helens, the punch up in Thatto Heath, a death at Sutton Manor Colliery, the six-year-old boy who was severely injured by stone throwing and the motorbike in Corporation Street that skidded in the tramlines and ended up on fire.

Tallies had a two-fold use in coal mines. The little discs that were left above ground had an important safety purpose in showing which miners were down the pit at any one time.

Other tallies would be placed on coal boxes to show who had dug the coal, so that the right person would be paid.

Sometimes those working underground would put their own tallies on other people’s coal, which led to James Hopkins from Phythian Street, James Bridge from Waterloo Street and William Poole from Blundells Lane in Rainhill appearing in court this week.

They were accused of obtaining 8s 7d by false pretences at Lea Green Colliery and were each fined £2.

The Brunswick Hotel used to be in Glover Street in Greenbank and last Saturday night the pub had upset Frances Pemberton in some way.

Fifteen minutes after closing time a constable had found the woman from Phythian Street kicking at its door and using bad language.

Instead of taking Frances to the police station, the officer decided to take her home and then issue a summons.

During the journey he said she had sworn at him all the way and this week in court Frances was bound over for three months.

A couple of punch-ups also made the courts. One had been on a Sunday afternoon in Crossley Road in Thatto Heath where PC Turner had watched Archibald Brown from Elm Road and Frank Lethbridge from Elephant Lane exchanging blows.

Brown chose not to appear in court, which was a foolish act as he was bound over for a longer period than Lethbridge and had to find higher sureties.

Robert Hughes from Herbert Street in Sutton was also in court to face a charge of assaulting Edward Griffiths.

The latter told the court that Hughes had formerly lodged with him and after leaving his house had returned in an angry fashion to claim two chairs and mattresses.

Griffiths said Hughes had also pummelled him, although the defendant accused Griffiths of making the first punch.

The St Helens Reporter had fun quoting the evidence of an Irish youth called James Gavan who had been a witness to the disturbance.

Upon being asked why he hadn't protected the people that he lodged with, the Reporter said Gavan had replied:

"Oi thought it was a family affair…Oh, oi can git nothun' by foightin' in the landlady's house."

The defendant was bound over for six months in one surety of £2 and a further one of £1.

I find it surprising that the tramlines that were laid throughout much of St Helens town centre did not lead to more accidents than they did.

Navigating through them must have been particularly tricky for motorcyclists in wet weather.

On the evening of the 18th a young man on a motorbike was proceeding down Corporation Street, near to Holy Cross Church, when he skidded in the tramlines and was flung off his machine.

His petrol tank was torn open and the hot engine burst into flames and continued burning furiously for several minutes.

But the rider was not injured and after the flames were extinguished he was able to wheel his machine home.

The junction of Westfield Street, Ormskirk Street, Cotham Street and Baldwin Street was generally known as the "Sefton Arms corner". Although it did have another name – "suicide corner".

Over one 12-hour period in 1923, a traffic census had counted 4,143 vehicles passing that point.

With the East Lancs Road still in its planning stages, drivers journeying through south Lancashire – many in lorries – passed through St Helens.

Because of the congestion that was caused and the many accidents, a policeman was stationed on point duty outside the Sefton Arms issuing hand signals to drivers.

And the danger was enhanced because the corner of Cotham Street served as the terminus or starting point for tramcars.

In order to create more space, a new Sefton Arms was currently being built, set back 30 feet from its predecessor.

On the 18th at a meeting of the council's Highways Committee, a discussion was held on what they should officially call the new Sefton Arms corner.

Councillor Boscow was strongly in favour of giving the place the name of Westgate, on the basis that it led to Westfield Street.

He strongly objected to it taking its name from a public house, adding: "It is not a very nice thing."

Councillor Woods said he preferred the new centre to bear the name "square" instead of "gate".

Other names were suggested but then Councillor Woods said: "Why not offer a prize for the best suggestion?"
Sefton Place, St Helens
Eventually, the committee decided to defer the matter for a month, although they would in time decide on Sefton Place as the name (and pictured above with a point-duty policeman on his little island).

On the 19th the inquest into the death of James Brown from Back of Jubits Lane in Sutton Manor was held at St Helens Town Hall.

It was yet another case where an unexpected collapse of underground roof had taken place, pinning the victim to the ground under loads of rubble.

James was dug out and taken to St Helens Hospital where he died later that day.

As usual in such cases, his fellow workers at Sutton Manor Colliery and the fireman that had been on duty told the coroner that the place where James was working had been perfectly safe and what had occurred had been a "pure accident".

And, as usual, a verdict of misadventure was returned.

A century ago there were far more stones of one kind or another lying about on the town’s pavements and roads.

Youths would often throw them at street lamps – or at other kids, sometimes with serious consequences.

This week William Riley from Bootle appeared in St Helens Police Court accused of wounding George Bradley with intent to do him bodily harm.

Supt Dunn told the Bench that Riley had at 6pm on the previous evening thrown a stone at some little children in Sutton.

The missile had struck 6-year-old George on his forehead causing a very severe wound that extended to his skull.

Upon being arrested Riley insisted that he had not meant to hurt the boy. He was remanded for eight days and although bail was granted, a total of £20 would need to be found as sureties, which was a steep ask.

When Vincent Fildes of Market Place in St Helens appeared in Southport Police Court accused of stealing a suitcase and cash, a character reference from St Helens Police was read out.

But it was not one the man would have liked to hear. The Chief Constable of Southport told the Bench:

"St. Helens Police say that he is an inveterate liar and a man of bad temper. His father will have nothing to do with him." Fildes was sentenced to six months in prison.

It was all change at the Hippodrome on the 23rd when a new set of artistes began a week's performances.

Although the zany act that topped the bill, The Ten Loonies, were far from new to St Helens having made many previous appearances in Corporation Street.

In a review of their show in 1920, the Reporter wrote: "The madhouse instrumentalists, the eccentric musicians, brought down the house with a glorious medley of the choicest band music and the most preposterous foolery that man ever devised."

They were dubbed in this week's Reporter advert "The Crazy Comedy Band" and these were the other turns on the bill, along with their descriptions in the ad:

Billy Leo & Kathleen Hesketh ("Burlesque comedy couple"); Zena Carol ("Comedienne"); Lauri Howards ("The mad horse, eccentric dancing"); The Ruby Sisters ("In singing, dancing and acrobatic act"); Dan Polo ("The Little Eccentric Comedian") and Arthur James & Partner ("Speciality artiste").

St Helens Reporter courtesy St Helens Archive Service at Eccleston Library

Next Week's stories will include the swingboat assaults in Sutton, the brickmaking conundrum, the foxtrot contest at the Hippodrome, a public telephone for Eccleston and the carrot and stick approach to defaulting maintenance payers.
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